# BTR Forum Sumac Backport Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** Build-Test-Release\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 5:38pm UTC](https://discuss.openedx.org/t/btr-forum-sumac-backport-discussion/14332 "2024-11-11T17:38:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mgmdi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/discuss.openedx.org/mgmdi/32/1684_2.png) [@mgmdi](https://discuss.openedx.org/u/mgmdi)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 5:38pm UTC](https://discuss.openedx.org/t/btr-forum-sumac-backport-discussion/14332/1 "2024-11-11T17:38:06Z")
During our last meeting, a discussion topic regarding Forum V2 was brought to BTR’s attention: > Forum v2 integration is pending merging of [this PR](https://github.com/openedx/edx-platform/pull/35671). There is fear that we are too long in the testing phase to merge it. I would like to argue in favor of adding this feature to the release. Because of the impact of backporting new features in the middle of testing a new release, we’d like to have an additional meeting to decide and discuss our next steps. Join us if you’re interested in discussing Forum V2 inclusion in the Sumac release! Here’s today’s transcript so you have full insight into the discussion (starting from min 20): > **[Build-Test-Release Biweekly Meetup – 2024/11/11 11:35 GMT-03:00 – Transcript](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e_fzFo71bph_cFmzPLJrL7Q1898KlZDzhMFy6T7YWDY/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.bjg684wdo0kk)** > > Build-Test-Release Biweekly Meetup – 2024/11/11 11:35 GMT-03:00 – Transcript Attendees Adolfo Brandes, Andrés González, antonella perrrupato, Dave Ormsbee, Farhaan Bukhsh, Maksim Sokolskiy, Maria Grimaldi, Maria Grimaldi's Presentation, Peter Pinch,... #### Additional Context To better understand Forum V2 and its improvements, please refer to these documents: - [Forum Application](https://github.com/openedx/forum) - [Forum V2 Proposal](https://discuss.openedx.org/t/axim-funded-contribution-proposal-forum-rewrite-from-ruby-mongodb-to-python-mysql/12788) #### Meeting details BTR Forum Sumac Backport Discussion Wednesday, November 13 · 3:00 – 4:00pm UTC Google Meet joining info Video call link: [https://meet.google.com/rjj-tvjg-pcc](https://meet.google.com/rjj-tvjg-pcc) @regis, feel free to add additional context if needed! ---
**Author:** ![mgmdi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/discuss.openedx.org/mgmdi/32/1684_2.png) [@mgmdi](https://discuss.openedx.org/u/mgmdi)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 6:03pm UTC](https://discuss.openedx.org/t/btr-forum-sumac-backport-discussion/14332/2 "2024-11-11T18:03:23Z")
These key points from today’s discussion will be revisited in the next meeting, where we’ll make a final decision on Forum V2. Info from MIT, 2U and other folks will help us ensure all stability and compatibility needs are addressed. **Forum V2 Migration Overview** - Migrates the forum from Ruby to Python and from MongoDB to MySQL. - Aims to streamline codebase and enable easier future development. - Forum V2 includes a migration command to transfer forum data from MongoDB to MySQL. This process is non-destructive, retaining MongoDB data while adding to MySQL. **Merge PR 35671 Concerns** - PR #35671 is ready for merging, but timing is a concern. - High confidence in stability, though merging now increases release risks. **Testing Challenges** - Integration requires testing for both MySQL and MongoDB configurations. - Developers of Forum V2 (edly) offered to take on critical testing responsibilities, easing the burden on testers. **Backporting Implications** - Backporting Forum V2 adds release complexity and risks, especially under tight timelines. - Options include toggling Forum V2 off by default or offering it as an experimental feature. **Default Behavior Proposal** - Plan to enable Forum V2 in the Sumac sandbox for testing. - Default inclusion will depend on test results, fallback to optional if issues arise. Please, review the transcript for more details. Or ask here 👇 if you have any questions! ---
**Author:** ![pdpinch](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/discuss.openedx.org/pdpinch/32/36_2.png) [@pdpinch](https://discuss.openedx.org/u/pdpinch)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 9:18pm UTC](https://discuss.openedx.org/t/btr-forum-sumac-backport-discussion/14332/3 "2024-11-13T21:18:13Z")
I’m sorry I was unable to attend the meeeting today (11/13) or find someone to replace me. Were there any decisions made? Our plan at MIT Open Learning is to deploy the new forum service alongside the old one, so we can test it. If it isn’t backported to Sumac, testing will be limited to our deployment that follows edx-platform master. We will share our testing results. If there is a testing plan for the forum code, we will follow it – although we don’t use Tutor. Peter Pinch MIT Open Learning ---
**Author:** ![regis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/discuss.openedx.org/regis/32/2640_2.png) [@regis](https://discuss.openedx.org/u/regis)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 1:02pm UTC](https://discuss.openedx.org/t/btr-forum-sumac-backport-discussion/14332/4 "2024-11-14T13:02:06Z")
I summarized here the decisions that were made: [[DEPR]: Replace cs\_comments\_service · Issue #437 · openedx/cs\_comments\_service · GitHub](https://github.com/openedx/cs_comments_service/issues/437#issuecomment-2476299517) > - Forum v2 support will be merged in edx-platform in Sumac. > - Platforms not running Tutor will keep running forum v1 by default. > - Platform running Tutor will run forum v2, but with different data backends: > - Existing platforms will keep using MongoDB: instructions to migrate will be printed on `tutor ... launch` and be available in the tutor-forum [README](https://github.com/overhangio/tutor-forum/). > - New platforms will default to the MySQL backend. > > - Platforms running Tutor and which need to stick to forum v1 will have to create their own Tutor plugin, likely based on top of [this version](https://github.com/overhangio/tutor-forum/pull/49/commits/ef8ed4576dd27763c15f31c0ac19b8c46392d5bc). > - Legacy forum v1-related code will be removed from edx-platform before Teak. > - Legacy MongoDB related code will be removed from forum v2 before Teak, with the exception of the migration script, which will remain available in Teak.